My dear friend, Victoria Savostianova, joins me to explore what life is like for her as a Ukrainian and for me as an American during times of existential change happening in our nations. I experienced this as a beautiful dialogue that weaves together our unique contexts, how we're relating to life during these times, and what we're learning around showing up fully for What Is. Please be sure to check out Victoria's beautiful and powerful writings.

Victoria's Website
Victoria's writings on life in Ukraine
Emerge Ukraine Pilgrimage interview
A Metamodern Vision for a Post-Liberal America